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Darkman

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« on: May 20, 2015, 04:18:00 AM »
Hello Mark!

i looked over the axis minor Chart & Setup and two things i would like to discuss.


Romania : Starting with 8 Units + Artillery
                And can build 1 infantry units per turn  (2 divisions )

Looking at the real Situation for Romania
The Romanian Army had a total of 686,258 men under arms in the summer of 1941 and a total of 1,224,691 men in the summer of 1944.

1939 - 11 Divisions
1940 - 28 Divisions
1941 - 33 Divisions
1942 - 31 Divisions
1943 - 33 Divisions
1944 - 32 Divisions
1945 - 24 Divisions

I would suggest to increase the max build of romania infantry at least from 1 to 2 again.
Also increase the intial setup for Romania from 8 infantry to 11 infantry (+3)

Iraq Forces: (Pro British)

They had around 60,000 Units in 4 Divisions.

i would suggest to increase the setup starting force by 1 ..  so that one iraq unit is on each production value territory.

What you say?


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Re: Axis Minor
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2015, 08:38:09 AM »
Agree with Iraq - we will go back to having them have 2 infantry.

With Romania, it is a little tougher. . . Each Romanian infantry unit represents at least 2 divisions (maybe even 3).  So - a 1939 start should really only have them begin with maybe 6 infantry units (for 11-12 divisions). But to get to 28 in 1940, they would need to build 8 more units which is not really possible.  So, I would say that we should assume the 11 divisions is pre-war 1939 and the Romanian At-war total in September 1939 is somewhere between 11 divisions and 28 divisions (between 6 units and 14 units).  So I think starting them with 8 is not too bad.

If we start them at 8 units (16 divisions) and they build 1 a turn starting in Autumn 1940 with no losses, by Autumn of 1941 they should have 12 units (or 24 divisions).  This falls short of the 1941 - 43 level.

If we start them at 8 and let them build 2 a turn they could get to 16 units (or 32 divisions) by Autumn 1941.  Assuming an average of 4 divisions annihilated by the Russians every turn, Romanian production could keep pace with attrition through 1941-43.

So - I think I would be ok changing it to 2 max builds for Romanian infantry. . .I think we had it at that threshold at one point. ..

Mark



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Re: Axis Minor
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2015, 09:48:42 PM »
Thanks for the Huge Observation Mark .

But don't forget that the Axis Minor can't build on the first turn.. So normally they Can build 2 in the Winter 1940 Turn and 2 inf on the spring 1941 Turn. Having 12  = 24 Divisions in Barbarossa seems too low.

Also the 1941 setup needs to be changed for all axis minors as their build Turn in Winter 1940 (12 pp) Is not taken into the setup.

For example Romania start with 8 inf units in spring 1941.


If they start with 11 , Building 2 inf in Winter 1940 and 2 inf on spring 1941 they would have around 30 divisions + maybe 1 artillery + 1 Tank.


Looking at the chart i see the Finland join Is different to the rulebook .. It says you have to conquer all norway territories, while rulebook says all norway production territories. What is given?
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Re: Axis Minor
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2015, 03:17:11 AM »
I'll make the change to the Romanian builds and at start units.  I may reduce Hungarian at start units a little as they were really not too numerous at the beginning of Barbarossa.

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Re: Axis Minor
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2015, 07:04:18 AM »
Thanks for the change, but you missed 3 PP. 

I see they can't spend it , so in the 1941 Scenario they should start with 15pp ?

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2015, 08:46:29 AM »
man. . .you are very strict on details. . . are you German?   ;D

I tell you what. . .we will give the minor's one of the Ploesti oil points in Autumn 1940 and let them start with a Romanian armor unit in the 1 build box so we don't have to mess with the production.

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Re: Axis Minor
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2015, 08:58:04 AM »
man. . .you are very strict on details. . . are you German?   ;D

I tell you what. . .we will give the minor's one of the Ploesti oil points in Autumn 1940 and let them start with a Romanian armor unit in the 1 build box so we don't have to mess with the production.

He he :-)  Yes i am  8)
I might get that game fixed one day    ;)

Yeah that solution sounds good !

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Re: Axis Minor
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2015, 10:53:16 AM »
OK - adjusted on the chart. . .along with US DD tanks and "hy" note for Soviet Guards armor.  Should be on the dropbox files now.

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Re: Axis Minor
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2015, 04:34:01 AM »
Nice - DD tanks are important to get on the front line right away because, chances are, with no leader on the initial amphibious wave you will not get much in the way of armor reinforcements for the 2nd round...