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Darkman

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Railing Planes
« on: August 24, 2014, 07:20:40 AM »
is it possible to rail Planes ? Like the Bf 109 ?

John D.

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Re: Railing Planes
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2014, 10:25:36 AM »
Yes! You can rail any plane. It counts toward rail capacity - of course. Also - remember that you can strategically redeploy any air unit with a range of 3 or higher. That does not count toward rail capacity - as they are being flown somewhere.


georgemak1

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Re: Railing Planes
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 04:03:44 AM »
I think Mark needs to clarify this in the rule book, the way it's written now it says you can strategically move planes with the range of 3 or more, but nothing about the rest. And I can't find anywhere in the rule book that says  planes with a range of 3 or more get to strategically redeploy for free.

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Re: Railing Planes
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2015, 05:50:02 AM »
Thanks for the scrutiny on the rules.  some things I guess have gone unwritten through playtesting and never been documented.  Adjusted to the following:

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8.1 Planes and strategic redeployment
All planes that are in supply that have a movement range of 3 or more may be set aside for strategic redeployment (set them aside just like strategic rail moved units) on any movement chit draw.  Planes that have a range of 3 or more may be strategically redeployed for free (i.e. they do not count toward a country’s rail capacity). Planes that have a range of only 2 may not be strategically redeployed for free.  These planes may only move tactically – or may be railed (per ground strategic movement rules and costs) or carried on naval transports.

georgemak1

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Re: Railing Planes
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2015, 05:01:14 AM »
A couple of questions for you guys, 1)when you strategically redeploy a unit, you set it aside and when its time to place it back, you place them following the rail lines along the mar, ex. I want to redeploy a few german units to north Africa, first I need to rail them down to Italy and from there transport them down, just want to make sure I have this right.
2) When you move troops with a naval transport with the fleet escort them , ex. from a German harbor up to north Norway, and at a following chit the allies move move tactically into the same sea zone where the German transports suppose to land the troops, do the troops land before the sea battle, after one round of battle , or they will have to wait 4 rounds and hope their fleet wins the sea battle?

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Re: Railing Planes
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2015, 08:06:14 AM »
Hi George:

Air units with a range of 3 may be strategically redeployed anywhere on the map (it is assumed, with a 3 month time period, that these planes could re-base anywhere on the map).  Air units with a range of 2 and ground units can only be strategically redeployed by rail.

On the movement phase, if these units are on a territory with a rail line in it that connects to 2+ factory territories in your home country, they may be removed on a chit that would enable them to move. See rule 6.2 and 6.2.1.

On the non-combat movement phase, these units are placed back on the board in a territory with a rail line in it that can trace back to 2+ factory territories in your home country.  See 20.6.1.

Therefore, as the German player, you could take units off the board on the movement phase from a territory in France during the movement phase and then place them back on the board in a territory in Southern Italy on the non-combat movement phase.  The following turn, on the movement phase, an Italian transport could pick those units up, and take them to a territory in North Africa and drop them off.  You can not rail a unit from Europe to North Africa as any rail line in North Africa does not connect to Italian or German factory territories.

Transporting units with Transports:
In your scenario below, it would depend if the Norwegian territory is occupied or not.  If it is unoccupied, the German units would just land immediately.  If it is occupied and there would be a battle, they would have to wait to land until the combat phase.  If British naval units moved into the sea zone they are in, the naval battle would need to be resolved first (all four round) before the ground battle could take place.  See 7.5.6:

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7.5.6 When a transport moves to an unoccupied sea zone and drops cargo off in a friendly or unoccupied enemy territory, the cargo is disembarked immediately (prior to the next movement chit or the air movement phase).  If the land territory is enemy occupied or the sea zone is occupied by enemy naval units, the cargo on the transports must wait until the conclusion of the naval combat phase (and all enemy surface combat naval units have been destroyed, returned or retreated) before disembarking their cargo.

Does this help?

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Re: Railing Planes
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2015, 10:27:59 AM »
Thx Mark I knew it was somewhere in the rules I just wasnt be able to find it,