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WWII: Struggle for Europe____WWII: Struggle for Asia => Introduction => Topic started by: John D. on January 30, 2011, 01:44:34 PM
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OK - We will start by disk.
You get the following:
4' x 6' MAP of Europe
Air Battle Board
Ground Battle Board
Naval Battle Board
German Country build Sheet and Set Up Chart (1939 & 1941)
British Country build Sheet and Set Up Chart (1939 & 1941)
Italian Country build Sheet and Set Up Chart (1939 & 1941)
Russian Country build Sheet and Set Up Chart (1939 & 1941)
French Country build Sheet and Set Up Chart (1939 & 1941)
United States Country build Sheet and Set Up Chart (1939 & 1941)
Axis Minors Country build Sheet and Set Up Chart (1939 & 1941)
British Commonwealth Country build Sheet and Set Up Chart (1939 & 1941)
Leader Counter Sheet
16 Military Unit Combat Counter Sheets
6 Army Marker Counter Sheets
Victory Point Chart
USSR and US Tension Level Chart
And lastly - the rules
Cost is $39.00 shipped.
We will be producing the maps and offer a hard copy of the sheets and counters. Price is TBA. We will credit the cost of the disk toward the price of the hard copy game!
Thanks for your patience! The wait was worth it!
John
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John,
How does one contact you for a copy of the disk and how is payment made?
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i sent john an email message and he sent me his pay pal email
thanks
kenb
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The pack is great but i like the picture of every unit base whit is battle value and nationality on the disk.
no prob for pay this more. thanks
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Yes - just email me through the site and I can send paypal directions.
Thanks all!
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(16 Military Unit Combat Counter Sheets) What is that? sorry but i am french.
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As there are some new miniatures in the advanced game (heavy artillery, new fighters etc), will there be an updated list of where to buy the necessary metal miniatures if one chooses to go that route?
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I will update the list and email it out to everyone.
The main difference is for Artillery / AT guns / AA guns.
The difference being - that since the miniatures are mounted on counters - the artillery from Skytrex do not work so well as their molds have solid bases - so they would cover up the combat values on the counter-bases.
So the cheap alternative is to use plastic Axis and Allies artillery and AA guns. The expensive alternative is to use GHQ miniatures - and I'll put the list together. I think the map and game look pretty nice - so getting the nice miniatures over time just add to it.
For all the planes you can possibly want use the Tumbling Dice 1/600th scale miniatures - you can get them at Brookhursthobbies.com.
I will put a list together - but part of the fun is to search skytrex, GHQ and brookhurst to find what you want. For example - for the German panzer division - I like to use a mix of different Pzkw III and IV models - just to have some cool variety. Since the combat values are printed on the counter-bases - you are not confined to kust using one mold for your units.
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I personally like using the same mold, it causes less confusion about which units are on the board.
kenb
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My friend Jeremy of Field Marshall Games is working on bringing out a whole line of country specific units in plastic that are just amazing in their detail. Also, there will be multiple molds for many of the base units so that one could use them for different levels of the different types.
Right now, Italy is just coming out as the first country, but he is working on all the major powers and some extras too.
http://www.fieldmarshalgames.com/field-marshal-combat-units.html
The colors of the powers will match those of the Combat Dice that he produces, which is close to the latest WotC A&A colors- but not always. He will also be doing some black Germans eventually too.
So between all the older plastic pieces from the various MB, Hasbro/WotC, Xeno, etc. A&A games and some metal miniatures that you may have incorporated together for your games, you can mix in these new molds and cover virtually all your needs.
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any new info on cost+availability of hard copy version?
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The disk came yesterday and I just started looking at the map.
WOW!!!!!!!! It looks great!
Back with more later.
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Yes. . . John is very proud of his map. . . .he had to go and take my beautiful black & white MS paint drawing and make it look respectable
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A few weeks ago, I received the disk from John and I must say, I am completely satisfied with this great work. It is superb! After a long effort to print out the labels and remount the various armies, navies, and air forces, the result is unbelievable. The map is beautiful, the labels are colorful, and this is an excellent (perhaps the best) game on WWII. If you like strafing airfields, airborne assaults, U-boat campaigns, and much, much more, this is your game.
Good work to all who participated in this very worthy game. You have accomplished what other game designers attempt but never quite make it. Congrats!!!
I look forward to the Pacific version when its completed. Again, kudos to all!
Larry
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Glad to hear it Larry! - Lots of input from many folks!! It was a group effort. Looking forward to Pacific!
It takes effort to put the game together but the playtime is worth it. We have spent much time coming up with strategies pregame - Implementation is sooo fun.
We have spent ALOT of time trying to break the game, closing loopholes, etc - and have made many adjustments to make this a great play!
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When does the deluxe version come out?
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Advanced Struggle for Europe is available! an e-copy of the game is for sale for $39.00, and a hard copy is for sale for $295. Includes map, counters, country sheets, battleboards, leader counters, army markers.. .
Things you will need to furnish yourself include:
miniatures (plastic or metal - up to you)
chips (most people have tons of these from A&A games)
12-sided dice
Contact sales(at)ww2wargame.com with questions or if you want to put in your order
cheers,
Mark
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Print is over. The Map is awesome...
I start a game this evening.
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Great to hear! Give us some feedback and post questions (I'm sure you will have a few in your first time playing!)
cheers,
Mark
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I'd love to see some pictures as well :)
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Woo hoo!!!
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1. what is the reason for +2 on a industrial complex in the corner?
2. Need a lexicon for the unit Base. For russia i dont sure for someone unit.
3. In the dics i dont find the domage pieces for ship or other.
4. What is the reason for the 3-4 finland infantry? vs another Bulgaria Roumania...
thanks
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A "+2" means that the territory is worth 2 extra points to the original owning country while it is in their control. When an enemy occupies and collects income - they only receive the main number and NOT the "+2" income
I am not sure what a lexicon is...
I will email the damaged units markers - I may have forget them - what is your email?
3-4 Finns - Mark can explain... :)
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I think that he is talking about an explanation of the unit bases.
What the different number and symbols stand for.
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Ok - well if that is the case - for ground units - the number in the lower left corner is the number needed (or less) for a unit to score a hit on the offensive on a 12 sided die (in the Finn Infantry example - a "3" or less). The lower right hand corner is the defensive value (in the Finn Infantry example - a "4" or less).
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Email (JOCELYN1979@hotmail.com)
for the Finn is the reason for the 3-4 value? thanks
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Finnish infantry units were some of the best in the war and fought extremely well against the Soviets in 39 as well as later in 41-43. I would consider them the elite of the Axis minor allies.
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Can I get a hard copy with a disc of the map as well?
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Of course! :) - Hard copy will come with a disk.
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When the Pacific is ready?
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We only have the Beta version - would you like that for now?
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The map and any of the conponements is ready is just the rule is beta?
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Sadly not :-) it's still true beta =) We have to wait a little longer
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For now i need the pacific map for printing and the units base for printing all europe and asia theater in one shot. i can wait for the rest (pacific rules book and other stuff). the rest give on a second disc when you finalise the other stuff. i am ready for pay for the second disc, no problem.
Except is the map is not ready and unit base is not finalise. thanks for rapid response on this idea...
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Are there more pics of the Pacific game available? Can you post some and examples of play? It would be good to start a section on the forum dedicated to the Pacific Game and one dedicated to the Europe game.
Uncle Joe
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Hi Uncle Joe,
Mark is painting the units - we plan to take photos at Consimworld next week so stay tuned. Did you have any specific questions?
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Hey guys,
Be sure to check the forum email. I want to order the advanced game. Please contact me for payment arrangements.
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OK, Bob - we are on it!
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I mailed payment this morning to the address sent to my email. Hopefully you'll have by the end of the week.
I'm going to have to buy a second ping pong table, aren't I...?
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Great, Bob!
We rarely play both Europe and Pacific at the same time - it is a lot to manage unless you have 5-6 players or more. . .and when we do we usually play the 1941 scenario - otherwise it is a little slow for the Pacific theater players for the first quarter of the game. But, yes, when we put them together it is a 4'x12' map not counting room on the sides for battle boards and country charts. . .
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The ironic thing is that I doubt I'll ever get to play it. The guy I used to game with has a lot of other stuff going on in his life now, so we don't game any more. I still wanted to get it though in case my gaming situation changes in the future. I didn't want to take a chance on waiting until I had people to game with, then try to order it sometime down the road only to find you guys were no longer selling it. If I have the files I can always print it all out when/if I have someone to game with.
BTW, what is your convention schedule looking like this year? Will you be at GenCon or Origins?
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I would like to see markers that tell you what kinda of action your naval units took in the current turn. Something like cards saying "Amphiphious 2", " Tactical 4". Strategic Attack 6", or Strategic Move 8" cause sometimes its hard to remember. Is there an way you guys make anything like this happen?
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Making stickers to put on a wooden cube - like I made for battle markers would be the easiest. Place the block next to the naval units and place "face up" to whichever movement type occurred for the naval units...
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I dont have the computer skills but if someone can make a sheet that we will be able to print out, that would be great.
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Got an easier solution. Use an 8-sided die to keep track of each group of ships. 8)
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No worries - I will mock-up some counters and post them here on the forum.
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That would be great Mark, thx