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WWII: Struggle for Europe____WWII: Struggle for Asia => General Discussion => Topic started by: RandR on November 05, 2006, 01:13:19 PM
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Which conventions are on the agenda for 2007? I have to turn in my vacation schedule in December 2006 for the 1st 4 months (JAN-APR) of 2007. This could be the format where some extra playing can be accomplished. I'm looking at LITTLE WARS in Chicago during April, 2007. Any visitors?
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I plan on definately being at Origins and GenCon Indy again - I have to pick my Cons carefully or the 'Missus' can get upset ;)
I'll try t make it to a few of the smaller New England Cons too - like Havoc in Massachussets. Thinking about the WBC - but that a lot in the space of about a month.
cheers,
Mark
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Origins- July 5-8, 2007
WBC- July 31 to Aug. 5, 2007
Gen Con Indy- August 16-19, 2007
I can go to Origins because it normally coincides with the 4th of July weekend. My wife and girls hang out with the in-laws. I catch up with them on the Sunday night for fireworks.
I then make my real gaming call to go to WBC. I GM the Axis & Allies event there and play in some other tourneys. I won the History of the World event last year.
After that kind of gaming adventure, I can't make it to GCI. Not enough "Honey-Do" points in a year for that kind of turn around. I was able to stop in on the Saturday morning in 2005 only because we were visiting friends in Indy.
I can only get away with the WBC convention and its length because my wife is a teacher. If she actually had to go into school during that time, I wouldn't be going out to Lancaster, PA.
Craig
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I'll put ORIGINS & GENCON INDY on my schedule along with the DIECON & ARCHON conventions held in St Louis and LITTLE WARS which is held in Chicago. These are the local CONS that have pretty good attendance. Still have to wait on the vacation approvals though.
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Good - Origins and Gencon are on our schedule!
John
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It really looks like you want me to try out my theory on invading Japan at one of these conventions?
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Heck yeah - I have never seen anyone do it!
You could be the first!
John
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Got the vacation schedule back for the 1st 4 months of 2007 and only half of what I requested was approved. If that's an indicator of what may happen for the last 8 months of the year then my attendance at conventions will be extremely limited and probably to just some local CONS in Missouri or Kansas for 2007. I can't see attending these larger CONS is worth my attention for just a part of Saturday and a part of Sunday. The only alternative left is the alternate work schedule and with what I just saw for the vacation schedule, I'm not holding my breath on those days being approved either. It may be awhile before the invasion of Japan occurs!
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Keep me posted!!!
John
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Only good news about vacation scheduling is the request has to be turned in at the end of this month, which is early by about 5 weeks. The alternate work schedule did return me to having Fridays off which helps. So GENCON looks like a good possibilty to join you. ORIGINS is still up in the air as July 4 is on a Wednesday, so that Thursday may be a problem.
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Ok Bob,
One out of 2 is not bad...
John
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I am planning on being at both Origins and GenCon this year (fingers crossed).
Mark
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We are officially REGISTERED for Thursday through Saturday at both Origins and GenCon 2007!
Hope to see you there!
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What are the ID #s for your games at ORIGINS & GENCON? I'm flying in on the 4th & leaving the following Monday. I'll be driving to GENCON and should be there late Wed afternoon and leave about noon or 1 PM on Sundeay as it's a healthy 8 hour drive.
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Gencon :
BGM00043 16th
BGM00042 17th
BGM00041 18th
I do not know the Origins IDs.
David
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Origins:
Day (Date)- Event #
Thursday (07/05/07)- # 4968
Friday (07/06/07)- # 4970
Saturday (07/07/07)- # 4969
Craig
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OK - I believe for Origins we have
me
John
James
Mike (from the Cape)
Craig
Eric
Dan
R&R
and that's just folks we know from this site - not including others that have signed up from Origins and 'regulars' who play the game at every con. All this is too many for just one game. We will be bringing two games to accomodate everyone.
I think I would like to play with this simultaneous AA vs. strategic bombing suggested rule:
I still think that the AA gun system should be changed to make it simultaneous with bomber damage. Our group agrees, even Eric the German player.
Any other optional rules we should be playing with at Origins?
Mark
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The Orgins guys probably did not know which game they were featuring for the "War Room" (page 53) of their Pre-Registration book - but it is our very own WWII: The Struggle for Europe and Asia and one of our more infamous players (Craig Yope). You can check it out here:
http://www.originsgames.com/
See you all at Origins!
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Well- the coundown for Origins is nearing an end. looking forward to seeing all the regulars there as well as teaching all newcomers!
John
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We had an awesome time at Origins - even better than last year! ;D
We ran two tables on Thursday and Friday (first time we have done that at a Con) and had 10-12 people playing on both days - which was great to see.
The "veteran" rematch between Michigan and New England ended up in yet another Allied Michigan victory and I was defeated once again by my arch-nemesis - Dan, as the Soviet Union and Craig as the UK. Eric managed an invasion on Japan in 1944, humbling John as Japan - looks like John and I need some practice before trying to go toe to toe with the Detroit folks again.
We ended up playing a great 1941 scenario game on Saturday to wrap up Origins with which was a very close game down to the wire and a great way to end the Con!
Thanks to everyone who came and played - look forward to next year!
See you at GenCon!
Mark
Stay tuned - Pictures to be posted soon ! ! !
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Well - I am finally recovered. I have to admit - even though I was eventually soundly defeated by the US - that was the best game I had playing Japan - trying to fend off the US was alot of fun. Defending the home islands to the last man was fun. If was the first time I have ever seen the US land on the Japanese mainland. Wait till you see the pics!
Later - John
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I took pics of the game after every Allied turn and will eventually post them.
Playing this game is so much fun when going against quality opponents. (Maybe one day we will actually get a good game out of you guys. :P ;) )
Everyone should try to show up at one of the conventions to get a game with Mark and John. It is great to have enough people playing to enjoy what is going on during a game instead of having to do all the work for one side since you don't have enough players.
Craig
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Here are a couple of general pics from Origins! I am sure Yoper will be posting the play by play of our game in the After Action Reports section.
We had a blast - hosting two games at once on both Thursday and Friday - looking forward to next time!
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Had a good time especially when I'm giving the German player fits when I roll for the neutrals. Would have loved to see Denmark survive the 1st turn again and Belgium & Holland following the "MAD" theory!! Instead of cards, you might want to have available some 8 sided dice and use the "1" as a roll again for raising the tension level. Just something to think about to reduce the bulk one has to carry around.
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Should see you guys at GENCON for 1 or 2 sessions.
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Yea I myself will be at Gencon for at least the Thrusday Session.
Although I will have to leave for an hour or two around 10 am.
Sean
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Great - we will see you then!
John
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Well guys (Mark and John),
Is anyone scheduled to slap you around at Gen Con Indy, like you got slapped around at Origins?
Or are you going to take it easy and playtest some the new ideas that are bubbling up?
Enjoy yourself there. I am getting ready for my trek to Lancaster, PA, for WBC and I am trying to decide whether I should drag the game along for show and tell.
I will be so busy for the whole time that I doubt that I would have time to play.
Craig
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There are a few "regulars" that will be playing there - so I am sure we will get in a game or two with 5-6 experienced players.
Maybe we will get a chance to playtest some ideas on Saturday - we will see.
Next year, John and I may have to split up - I would really like to go to the Boardgame Championships at some point - hope you have fun Yoper!
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Ok - I will be running the game on Thursday. We will check with optional rules preferences that morning based on who plays.
John
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Hey guys,
Can't wait for next week! Just to let you know, I've got myself and Chad(solomongrundy) from two years ago coming for probably the Friday session. From what I'm reading about Origins---wow, that sounded like a good time. We are coming in on Thursday and we'll see you then.
Marty
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Awesome guys - glad to here it. Remember - you can download the rules off the site if you need a quick refresher!
See you there!
John
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Great to hear! Looking for a good game against you and Chad on Friday (get your sleep Thursday night!)
See you there!
Mark
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I'll be driving in on Wednesday afternoon. I'm helping a vendor with his supplies and will register that afternoon. Do you still have openings on Thursday & Saturday?
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Hi, Bob - look forward to seeing you again in Indy too! I think there are openings both days - I think there are more people signed up on Thursday than Saturday.
See you there!
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I wonder if Mark and John actually won a game at GCI since the Detroit crew wasn't there to keep them in line? ;D
I hope that all had a great time this year.
Also guys, I saw your buddy James (the one who played Italy on the second day of our Origins game) at WBC playing Anzio. I don't know if he really recognized me from Origins or not. Pass it along and see if it rings a bell for him.
Craig
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The game designers must be getting OLD. They haven't got onto the site yet and told everyone how well they did or did not do yet!
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HEY! I am getting old - but that is beside the point. . . ;)
We had a packed table all three days with 6-7 players going at it every day - which was a lot of fun and LOTS of different strategies and priorities - always a blast when you get debate going about what to do and what not to do (well, usually ;D! )
John hosted the game on Thursday (as I did not arrive until Thursday PM) - so I can't comment on the first game, but I can on Friday and Saturday:
Friday's game was an Allied victory in late 1943. It pitted Chad as Germany, me as Japan, and Paul as Italy against Marty, Tim, Dave, Tiny and John as the Allies. The game had a great start - but I think the British really decided it in the Med. The Axis never really applied much pressure to England and the British empire went on the offensive in North Africa in 1941, pushing the Italians out by early 42 and staging an invasion of Italy. The game was decided on Victory points in Autumn 1943 with the Allies firmly entrenched in Italy, Germany stalled in Russia and the Allies able to commit enough resources (- most of the British fleet and the U.S.) to stop any Japanese advances.
Saturday's game was very close up until 1943. Bob played England, Brent played the US, Sean played China and the US Pacific, Mark Meunch played Russia, Dave played Germany, John played Italy and Tim played Japan.
Like I said the game was very close up until 1943. From my (well. . . pro-allied) referee point of view, I think Germany building two factories early in the game paid off in the long run; Japan went all out and knocked out China (some lessons learned there on what to do I think if the Japanese try that again (i.e. run behind the yellow line));
The Brits did a good job managing everything and keeping the Axis in check (held all the important points (Cairo, Gibraltar, England, etc.), but I think around Spring 1943 the culmination of the extra German production and the Japanese having taken out China began to take its toll. The Germans were able to launch a late all out sub offensive in the North Atlantic which really threw the Allies off for almost a year, and they poured a tremendous amount of resources into Russia which left the Red Army in isolated pockets around Moscow/Leningrad, Baku and pushed back to the Urals. The Japanese threw their army against Russia in 1943 as well - adding more threat's to Tiny's Russia which just could not fight off a 100+ point Germany and Japan - without an Allied Second front (which got stalled due to the U-Boat war and a disastrous assault on a heavily fortified German/Italian defensive position in North Africa).
Even a 1943 Normandy invasion and subsequent liberation of Paris was not enough to save the Allied cause as the Germans had enough resources to put a huge tank army into France and push the allies back into the ocean.
The Germans won on victory points in Spring 1944 (at about 8pm - we absolutely flew through the game - way to go Dave- on playing a very fast Germany).
Overall, GenCon was a blast - the games ended early (no midnight/early morning games this year) but they were all VERY fun - I had a great time and I hope everyone else did too!
Mark
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Well Germany & Italy were a team effort with John and me making decisions on what to build.
I was planning to go with the u-boat war, and had seen a previous player a couple of years ago, go with early factory builds and thought that was a good idea also. John wanted the early factories also so that worked out well that we had basically the same ideas on what we wanted to do.
After Barbarossa, John pretty much ran the western and med. fronts while I ran the east. That coupled with making sure we did our builds during the Allied turn allowed us to keep up a good pace to our turns.
My theory on the East front was to push east as far and as fast as I could bypassing concentrated Russian defenses and trying to cut them out of supply. It worked pretty well and the dice rolls helped, so we were able to put a lot of Russian infantry out of supply and keep pushing east, to reducing the Russian income as well as bombing what they did get.
Russian counterattacks would put a portion of the German army out of supply, but we were able to reopen our supply lines relatively easy compared to the Russians, since we had a lot more of an offense then the Russains did.
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OK I am recovered. We played a 1939 European Theater on Thurday at Gen Con which resulted in an Axis Victory fairly early on - about 5 PM.
The Saturday game went along at a fast pace. That was a blast. It was played well by all.
We should have pics to post soon!
John
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I was the Italian player and I am not a real bad sore looser, but I did loose and I did get spanked pretty good, so I am sore. :D A lways wanted to try that country for the game. I played The War Game: World War 2 on Saturday. WW2: The Struggle . . . has some similar things, but more detail. TWG:WW2 is more like a pumped up Axis and Allies.
It was a blast, even though I choked. If my life depended on it, I couldn't roll anything worth a shot of powder. I realized what I did wrong: I built a factory early on and should have waited to build it after Italy joined the conflict. I just didn't have enough to take Greece and Crete. And it was all down-hill after that. I hope to make it back next year and take them or France. I like trying the difficult country, that way, if I screw up, it won't be as long before I'm put out of my misery. Of course, I will be trying to host a game too, with some ideas I have, so you guys better show up to answer any of the regular rule questions!
I hope to host a game at Rock-Con, Rockford, Illinois in November.
If you guys who own WW2:The Struggle . . . aren't too disagreeable, I'd like to try and add Patrol Bombers, Float Fighters, and Cavalry to the game, when I host it. Not to worry, I won't sell it, and --well, if they work, --I'd even let you add them to the rules. :-\
Remember the Flying Boats I showed you Mark and John? I will have those and the other two units represented. I've got the White Ensign Models resin 1/700 FW 200 Condors and Sunderlands and Pit-road models 1/700 Mavis' and Emily's and PBY Catalina. I hope to get Historifigs N Scale Anti-Tank guns, if they every answer my email/correspondence. I'm looking at some 10mm or 11mm figures for Cavalry. 6mm would be too small and 15mm too big. Brookhurst is slow on getting the Japanese "Rufe's" to me, but then, "patience is a virture." (update 22082007: they are in UPS' hands. Will report on that soon.)
John and Mark, you have done a great job. I'm really glad you made the work so well. Kudos 2 U both.
Kriegspieler7 (aka Paul E. Speerbrecker ;D)
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Hi Paul,
I am glad you had fun. That is the point afterall. I have lost a lot of games and had a blast as well!
I am sure Mark will agree - if there is something you want to add - then do it. We have had a lot of input from many individuals. If it makes it a better game, we want to hear about it! Good luck at Rock Con and let us know if there are any questions!
John
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Yup - Paul, I think you played a great Italy given that there were no U-boats harrassing the British - you caught the full force of their war effort and did a pretty good job slowing them down (bad dice and all)!
Look forward to seeing your rules ideas - please post them when you have them baked
See you next year,
Mark
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What future CONs do you plan to attend from here?
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Hello RandR,
At this point it will probably be Origins and Gen Con - Of course - if you happen to be in the New England area - we do play locally regularly....
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What are some New England conventions next year? When & where?
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Well, it looks like you'll just have to put up with me at GENCON & ORIGINS. I JUST CAN'T SEE ANY WAY AROUND THIS ACYIVITY.
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Are you guys going to Origins and Gen Con (Indianapolis) this year? My C.O. ...er...wife...said I can go to Gen Con this year.
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Eric and I from the Detroit Group will be at Origins and are going to play. Probably on Thursday.
We think that you (Mark) should run '41 scenarios so that all players are immediately in the action.
Running '39 scenarios keep some of the players on the sidelines for awhile and the game could also have gone in the dumper by the time the USA and USSR get into the game.
Craig
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Hi - I think we are planning on doing Thurs-Sat at Origins this year and just Friday and Saturday at Gencon. Still tentative on plans at this point.
We are currently planning to bring The Struggle for Europe and Asia as well as the new game under development to demo.
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Good idea. We will plan on this. We have actually discussed this before. We agree - for conventions - it is a good idea to start the 41 game.
John
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Hi Bob,
I should be at Origins for sure. 8)
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With all this talent, we should have a rousing good time!
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I just noticed, you won't be at Gen Con Indy this year. What a disappointment.
I'll get over it though. To quote Forest Gump, "It happens." Now I'll have to bring my game and hope there'll be some takers. I hope I can still offer it. You guys keep up the good work.
How about sending me some cards to hand out?
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You guys aren't going to Gen Con? That's a disappointment - I was able to get my wife to go along with letting me go for a couple of days. I doubt I can swing Origins. Oh well - why drive for a few hours to lose when I can lose in my own basement?
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I'm sorry - blame it on John - I usually do. . .
It sounds like Kriegspieler will be there - I would think that there is the makings for a good game.
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I may do that. Indy is a little less than a 2-hour drive from here as opposed to about 4 hours to Columbus. Jason has expressed interest in going as well if his wife clears it. We were thinking of going probably Thursday night or Friday morning and staying until Saturday night. A lot could happen between now and then, so I can't commit yet. Also, Jason is captain in the National Guard, so he is occasionally pulled out of town on weekends for various things - hopefully he will be free that weekend.
A question to the group as a whole - I haven't been to Origins since the early 90's. Back then it was primarily a wargame convention as opposed to all the fantasy stuff. Is that still the case? Gen Con appears to be much more fantasy and RPG than wargames. If Origins is still primarily a wargame con I may go ahead and try to go there instead. When is Origins this year?
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Origins Game Fair is a 24 hour game convention in Columbus, Ohio at the Greater Columbus Convention Center with game demos, tournaments, and casual play; along with a huge exhibit hall with all of the games you want to buy, an auction, an art show, seminars, and much more. Fair-Only passes get you into the exhibit hall and hundreds of game demos for games we guarantee you’ve never heard of (Saturday and Sunday)! Passes for the full show include over 4,000 tournaments and casual play games for all genres of gaming (Wednesday-Sunday).
Registration opening at 7 a.m. on the Wednesday June 25th, 2008 (games starting at 8 a.m.) running 'till 8 p.m. on the 29th. Registration is open from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. Wednesday - Saturday (and 'till 4 p.m. on Sunday) and though game-playing is 24 hours a day, games tend to be between 8 a.m. and Midnight. The Exhibit Hall is open 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. on Thursday - Saturday and 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Sunday.
Does that work for ya?
Craig
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Mark and John realize that they need to try to focus on getting revenge on the guys who keep kicking their butts. ;)
Unfortunately, Dan won't be coming this year so Mark can't get that monkey off his back. :D
Craig
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Man - He still talks about it to this day.... :'(
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I'll be going to Gen Con Indy. There's a mistake re: cost of playing the longer games if you go to the GCI website. It should only be for $6. And they will use the standard rules, without too much extra. The shorter games will be a little different, with a twist or two, hence, "Speer's Gambit."
I hope to take some pics and will give a review ff. its conclusion.
Peace, Love, Dope to all you grognards.
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Mark & John- Have you gotten to the point where all the countries have a basic naval air unit?
And if you do, are you going to play with that rule at Origins?
Craig
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Yes - and yes ;D
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So what is the rule change? ???
Give it up now! :o
Or are you holding back so as to spring it upon us at Origins in hope of bogging up down with rule changes. >:(
That may be the only way to slow us down! ;)
Craig
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I'm missing something. Aren't the basic air units already in the game? Or is this something different? ???
And it would appear that Yoper's Magic/Ultra isn't working as well. It sounds like he's lost some of his agents :o I hope you do as he says, he sounds dangerous and threatening. ;D
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K- We haven't played the game since last Origins. While I have been keeping track of things here, I haven't been on top of everything.
As such, I was in favor of a basic naval air unit for all countries as the fix for air-only attacks against mixed air/naval defenders. That was my fix instead of using the "half and half" rule that Mark and John was using last year in the Saturday game that I jumped into later in the evening.
I was unsure what the final call was on this topic since we had also been talking off-MB about air to air ratings and a different air to air system.
Maybe I need to take some time soon to go back over the rules to make sure I don't embarrass myself (anymore than I normally do ;) ) come Origins.
Craig
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Origins 2008- Okay Mark and John, let's talk about what we will be playing this year.
Day- Thursday
Time- 0900 (?)
Scenario- '41 Start
Optional Rules-
1) Limited Airbase Capacities
2) Parachute assaults on the mechanized phase
3) Interdicting strategic movement
4) Spanish and Turkish War Reluctance
5) Event Driven U.S. War Entry*
6) Event Driven Soviet War Entry*
7) Alternative Italian Surrender
(*)- These may not be applicable or need to be figured out so as to properly apply to the situation as it stands at the beginning of the '41 scenario.
We never played with this but I don't see why we can't play with this:
8 ) Naval Units Taking Damage
Also, you guys were playing the Saturday game last year with a different sea zone control rule. I think that you should explain that again so that Eric and I can discuss whether that would be a good way to play the game this time.
Finally, do you think that this time we should switch sides? Us as the Axis and you as the Allies?
Let's get this finalized so that we can then start the trash talking! :o :o :o :o :o ;) ;D
Craig
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I'm hoping to be able to join you guys, at least for Friday and Saturday. It's still up in the air, as the compressor on my A/C suddenly went out and I have to pay some big bucks to have that fixed, but I'm still hoping to come. I've been to both Origins and Gen Con in the past, and Origins always had more true wargaming than Gen Con (though that seems to have changed over the years).
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I have Thursday blocked out for Struggle since Friday and Saturday are taken up with other tourneys.
That doesn't mean I won't be back by the gaming area. Last year I came back up and played a few turns on Saturday night as the Japanese in that game.
Craig
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Craig,
Any rules you wish to play with are fine with me. Also- feel free to pick whichever side you folks with to play. You guys pick first. Let me know!
John
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Eric seems to think that the Axis are a bit weak in the '41 scenario set up.
I will give it a look and see what I think.
Maybe we can come up with some sort of adjusted set up or bid situation to reconcile the problem areas.
I will get back to you on this.
Craig
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Hi Craig,
I do not think they are too weak but we can do whatever you folks wish ;D
By the way - With that statement, I am assuming that you guys want to play the Axis...
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Hi Craig,
I do not think they are too weak but we can do whatever you folks wish ;D
By the way - With that statement, I am assuming that you guys want to play the Axis...
Let me put it this way- Eric's statement last night about the weakness of the Axis in your '41 set up was this:
"Let them be the Axis and we will wipe them off the map as the Allies."
Eric has an alternate set up from earlier game research that gives more to the Axis. I will send it along so that you can look at it.
Craig
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Ok So listen. You can beef up the Axis if you folks play them. If I am on the axis side - I do not want this. I promise I will give you a good game either way (not saying win - but saying a good game - Not like the last 2 times...) ;D
John
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Hope you guys have a good time. You'll just have to do without me for ORIGINS as I messed up a knee and hip joint last weekend and get to visit the doctor again on Tuesday. Not looking forward to plan B as plan A hasn't done to well. GENCON is on the schedule, but ORIGINS was too.
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John D. and Tim played the Allies versus Eric and I as the Axis in our modified set up of the '41 scenario.
We also added in a naval tac air unit for the UK, the US, and the Japanese. There was also a land based naval tac air unit for the Italians. With the inclusion of the naval tac air units, the regular fighter had its naval attack value dropped to 1.
It was a good game and a fun time. We were only going to play it on Thursday, but got to midnight and decided to come back in the morning on Friday to play a bit more. After the others reconvened in the light of day, they decided that it wasn't worth continuing. I was just getting out of the shower when they called me to tell me it was done.
I will post the batch of pictures that I took so that all can enjoy them. It will be down in the AAR section.
Craig
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That game was a real nail-biter. looking forward to the pics! :)
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Looking forward to the pics too. Love the nail biters, it keeps everyone occupied! LITTLE WARS, Feb 6-8, 2009 in Chicago, IL. A good convention to put on your calendar sometime in the future. The website is http://www.hmgsmidwest.com!
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The contact person or event manager for LITTLE WARS is Steve Rysemus. The email address for details is: steve.littlewars@gmail.com
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This must be an interesting topic for the gamers as there are more hits on this item than many others.
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I would love to make it to Little Wars or any of the smaller cons . . . Priority for me is origins and gencon and then try to get to some others if I can. I would really like to go to the boardgame championships or Consimworld too someday too. My Con calendar did not work out so well this year - I did not make it to GenCon or Origins in 2009 - which was a major bummer for me. . .
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I would love to make it to Little Wars or any of the smaller cons . . . Priority for me is origins and gencon and then try to get to some others if I can. I would really like to go to the boardgame championships or Consimworld too someday too. My Con calendar did not work out so well this year - I did not make it to GenCon or Origins in 2009 - which was a major bummer for me. . .
You mean 2008? ;)
Craig
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Disorientation from global travel... :P
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Your global travel must be on the board. The 2 big ones are on my schedule. Time will tell.
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I will still be on the family trip to Yellowstone/Grand Tetons in late June, so Origins is a NO-GO this year. >:(
I had already gotten the "early bird special" badge for this year and now have to try and get a refund. I went to the Origins site and found out that I will get jammed with a $20 processing fee for a $50 badge.
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ::) :P :P :P :P >:( >:( >:( >:(
And when I post my disgust on CSW's Origins thread, everyone just shrugs their shoulders and says it a typical/acceptable thing.
Sorry, but that's not customer service in my mind.
I am not going back to Origins again. Not with this kind of policy.
Craig
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Mark,
Wondering if you were going to make it to Gencon this year?
David
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Hi Dave - not likely as I am back in Prague for a couple years ;D Feel free to come visit again if you can swing it!
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Mark,
You will have to give me your e-mail and phone, starting next month they have charter flights that go over the pole to Germany for a reasonable rate. I just might take you up on your offer.
e-mail me at bigdaves{at}gci.net
Later,
David
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Hi Dave - not likely as I am back in Prague for a couple years ;D Feel free to come visit again if you can swing it!
Back in Prague?
Were you there before?
Craig
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Hi Yoper! Yeah - I lived here from 97-2000 too - now I'm back for maybe a couple years.
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You're so cosmopolitan! ;D
Craig
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John,
From Mark's comment it looks like he won't be at any conventions this summer - will you be at Gen Con or Origins?
I maybe able to go to Origins (depends on whether I go to Brazil or not) and wanted to know if you guys were going to be playing the game there. I'd like to get a look at the next game.
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Can't say for sure yet...
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I am going to Origins this year. ;D Will there be a Struggle for Europe and Asia game at Origins this year?? :-\ Hope you can make it, John.
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Not this year :-\- maybe next year :)
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Yeah - I'm not going to make it to Gen-con or Origins this year either, unfortunately.
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Late plans allow me to make it to Gen Con Indy this year.
John- Are you going?
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I may - I repeat - may be able to convince my wife to let me go.
And before you say anything, I want to make it clear that I do wear the pants in my family.
My wife does pick them out, though...
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No Gencon this year. - Possibly next year...
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Plus - I would be happy to host a game as well...
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Plus - I would be happy to host a game as well...
I will try to get a fall excursion to Boston put together.
Maybe I can ask Larry Harris (this weekend at GCI) if we can stop by an see where all the magic happens in his game design studio. He lives just northeast of Boston.
Craig
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Perfect.
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Poked my nose around at GCI on Friday and Saturday, but didn't see anyone playing the game. :'(
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well, when I move back home - I plan to go to GenCon or Origins every year and play (as long as I have at least a couple folks to join me). . .
wait til you see the big game Yope - it will blow you away - I hope you can get out to see John and Mike this Fall. I'm going to be back in New England around the Holidays and we plan to play a game or two then as well.
Did you see the AA40 game while you were at GenCon - how does it look?
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well, when I move back home - I plan to go to GenCon or Origins every year and play (as long as I have at least a couple folks to join me). . .
wait til you see the big game Yope - it will blow you away - I hope you can get out to see John and Mike this Fall. I'm going to be back in New England around the Holidays and we plan to play a game or two then as well.
Did you see the AA40 game while you were at GenCon - how does it look?
I took some pics of the map for AA40 Pacific. Also, I talked with Larry about some things related to the AA40 Europe and the ability to link the two games together for a large global game.
I will have to email you directly to let you know more.
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So Yope - if you are thinking still about a Fall trip to New England - I may be coming home around November 11th. . . Also I will be back for the Christmas Holidays for a few weeks. Let me know if you are serious about coming out Est for a few days and we'll get a game together.
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I plan on running a game at AnimeFest, FenCon and Boardgamegeek conventions in the DFW Area, however it is not the new version.
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I just consented to run a game at the Mini A-Kon at Madness comics in Plano, Texas on the 17th of October
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Good luck - are you planning to run the 39 game or the 41 game? You may want to go with the 41 game to get everyone into the action quicker. . .
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Yes - the 1941 set up is good for cons (especially one day events). We have done our share! 8)
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I ran 2 games at AnimeFest, Saturday and Sunday. The Saturday game ran until 1am and the axis conceeded. They had 29 VPs at the end of Spring 1942 after Japan declared war on WA.
The Sunday game was over on turn 9 with the Allies winning, the Axis was not able to defeat my Frech. The French/British had Belgium, and the French bordering territories of Germany and Italy.
They both started in 39
I prefer the 39 start because the 41 start doesn't have factories in Germany or Italy and Japan should have one in the 1 box as well
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Well - Saturday sounded like quite the battle. Sunday sounded tough for the Axis. Were the Axis players new to the game?
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Yes and No
The newbie wanted to play both Japan and Germany and let the experienced player play Itlay
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As long as everyone had a good time - that is the most important thing! I prefer the 1939 game as well - becasue there are just so many more options available to players.
Perhaps you can tweak the 41 set-up to your liking if you want to host it again at another Con if you have several players - I usually feel really bad for the poort US and Soviet players that have to wait several hours to get into the action
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You can also tweak the '41 game set up to your hearts delight.
We did, even when Eric and I played against John at Origins in 2008.
Eric though that the German set up in Mark's '41 set up wasn't the optimal play out and we agreed to change things to better one.
I should find that set up and post it.
Mark- while I would love to come out and play, I think that I used up my gaming "goodwill" with the wife for the rest of the year. And the fact that you are talking about holiday timeframes in your prior message. I couldn't get away then and you need to spend those precious moments with you family.
Besides, I want to save my trip out for a time when I can at least bring my security blanket - Eric. And maybe even your worst nightmare- Dan- can be talked into coming along. ;) ;D
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I understand. . . you need to hide behind Eric and Dan so as to to feel the full force of my revenge that I have been carefully planning for years. . . If you guys need more time to physically and mentally prepare yourselves for the encounter - I completely understand ;D
I'll be back in New England for a few weeks in December - and I am hoping to maybe make it to a con next summer - not sure which one yet - depends who all is available when.
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It looks like the A&A tourney that I run at WBC is moving to a Precon slot, which means that it is run the weekend prior to the main convention.
Because of that development, I will be gone from the "ranch" for a whole 10 days! I haven't brought it up to the wife yet, but I am hedging my game convention bets by planning accordingly.
As such, I don't see any way to make Origins a part of my summer of gaming fun. I have only got so many "chip" to use each year and it looks like I will have to burn them all in one shot.
Now that doesn't mean you guys couldn't come down to Lancaster, PA on the Precon weekend and play your game. You would have a fertile environment of A&A players to show off the game to.
Precons= July 31 to Aug. 1, 2010
Main Con= Aug. 2 to 8, 2010
No matter what, I hope to see you guys soon!
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So I'm a little out of the loop. The con is in Lancaster PA?
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So I'm a little out of the loop. The con is in Lancaster PA?
You bet!
http://www.boardgamers.org/hotellan.htm
It will be interesting for some since Gen Con Indy keeps creeping earlier into the summer each year and it is the the first weekend of August. The weekend that WBC ends.
WBC is always the first week of August but GCI can't seem to make up its mind.
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Not going to make it to Origins this year. . Yoper, Mike, Joe, and Brian could not make it and John had commitment problems ;D and I did not want to go solo. . .
Anyway - I WILL be back in the States last week of June/first week of July and looking forward to a game in the New England area then
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I'm shooting for 2 games... ;D
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It would be great to get 2 games in - we will see. . .probably back from June 26 through July 10. . .
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I know this is planning way, way, ahead- But I plan on running this at Orccon/Strategicon in LA FEB2012.
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I know this is planning way, way, ahead- But I plan on running this at Orccon/Strategicon in LA FEB2012.
Brain Damaged will love you! ;D
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doc
what area of the country do you live in ?
I run games in the DFW area
thanks
kenb
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I know this is planning way, way, ahead- But I plan on running this at Orccon/Strategicon in LA FEB2012.
Brain Damaged will love you! ;D
You can count on me to be there for sure.
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doc
what area of the country do you live in ?
I run games in the DFW area
thanks
kenb
I live in LA- Los Anchorage, Alaska. Real Alaskans consider Anchorage to almost be a part of Alaska. Diet Alaska, just one calorie, not Alaskan enough. A good buddy of mine was from LA and moved back there, and it sounds like hotels are pretty cheap if you run a game. So I figure I'll go down to introduce Struggle at the convention, spring for a few extra hotel days to see my buddy, and blind innocent bystanders at the beach :D
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Hi Doc - I didn't see the game registered on the Orccon site - which days are you planning on running it? Are you going to register it?
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[I live in LA- Los Anchorage, Alaska. Real Alaskans consider Anchorage to almost be a part of Alaska. Diet Alaska, just one calorie, not Alaskan enough. A good buddy of mine was from LA and moved back there, and it sounds like hotels are pretty cheap if you run a game. So I figure I'll go down to introduce Struggle at the convention, spring for a few extra hotel days to see my buddy, and blind innocent bystanders at the beach :D
So what you are saying is that there is a struggle player down here in LA?
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[I live in LA- Los Anchorage, Alaska. Real Alaskans consider Anchorage to almost be a part of Alaska. Diet Alaska, just one calorie, not Alaskan enough. A good buddy of mine was from LA and moved back there, and it sounds like hotels are pretty cheap if you run a game. So I figure I'll go down to introduce Struggle at the convention, spring for a few extra hotel days to see my buddy, and blind innocent bystanders at the beach :D
So what you are saying is that there is a struggle player down here in LA?
Sounds more like he is going to force his friend to play the game. Because isn't that why we go through all the hassle of becoming their friend? :o ;D
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Naw, his Struggle is raising 4 kids. He's one of those weird "non-gamer" types, but still a good buddy. NOTE- like I said, I'm planning WAY ahead, FEB2012. I have to try to plan financially for another disaster in my house, (I think my furnace is past due to crap out on me) as well as any future winter vacations. I'm already doing Vegas in December this year. I do have another buddy that I hadn't seen in years and introduced to Struggle, and we have been playing the s**t out of it for the last couple of months. He wants to try to save up to go as well.
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I didn't notice the 2012 until you pointed it out. That's a long wait :'(
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John/Mark- Are you thinking of hitting Origins this year?
I haven't been since 2008, but Eric is asking about this year. He is finalizing his divorce so he has a lot more time for gaming conventions and wants to know if I am interested.
If you are coming that would really help tilt my decision making process. Bring the new game and give us a baptism under fire. Or we can talk people like Ken from DFW into flying in and playing the original game. What say you?
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Hmm - well we are pretty much done with development - I'll begin working on the new graphics in hi res. I may be available...
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i plan on being at origins and gencon, i should be helping Reaper miniatures but could schedule time for the game
thanks
kenb
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Early Bird registration is good through Saturday (01/15/11). I will talk to Eric again tonight about this.
I pulled up the base game's rules yesterday and started a bit of a review/edit. I hope to look at getting back into this game some and maybe come up with some new ideas for some old areas of concern.
Ken- Aaron Ingle was suppose to be looking over the rules and asking me some questions because he was going to play over the holidays. What happen? Did you guys play?
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I am going to make an effort to go to Origins this year.
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we had a game on new years eve, however Aaron was not able to attend. We started in 41 and the game was close; however i think the axis would have held enough victory points to win.
thanks
kenb
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Ken- What are your plans for Origins?
I will be there helping out my buddy Greg with the A&A tourneys and will have time to talk/play some Struggle if you like. Let me know so I can plan accordingly.
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I plan on being there helping out Reaper Miniatures, let me know when y'all want to set up a game and I will try to schedule the games so i can play struggle.
Craig, who is bringing Struggle?
thanks
kenb
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I plan on being there helping out Reaper Miniatures, let me know when y'all want to set up a game and I will try to schedule the games so i can play struggle.
Craig, who is bringing Struggle?
thanks
kenb
Well, I wasn't planning on bringing it, but I can if you want to play.
Just let me know. There will most likely be space around the A&A area that I will be helping out in and we should be able to set up there. That way I can still be available for the answering of questions, etc. .
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Craig
It looks like Thursday would be the best day for me to play struggle, if you are still interested.
Do you think we will have enough players on Thursday?
I will bring struggle if we decide to play on Thursday. We will probly have to start in 41 to finish the game.
If you think we have the table space and can do the game on Thursday, we can post a sign up sheet here for the remaing 4 players.
thoughts comments?
kenb
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I was thinking that I could get the Boston boys to send me another copy of the map in a tube and I would bring my parts, but you could bring yours too.Â
I will be coming by car. I assume that you are flying. I just thought that it would be easier for me to bring the game.
As for the actual day, Thursday is fine by me. I am pretty fluid on what I have planned for the convention and I will just be hanging out in the A&A area being an assistant GM for all the tourneys.
While I understand that you are thinking that we need 6 players, but we normally get by with four. If we have people who want to get in, then great. But I see this more as a casual meeting of us two, maybe Eric, and whoever else wants to try it. It is as much about having a good talk about the game and sharing ideas as it is about a competitive game.Â
And yes, we should go with a '41 start if it is a one-day game. Right now we have just started a '41 game here, but we have an adjusted '41 set up that Eric came up with. If you would like to look it over, then email me at craigyope (at) comcast.net and I will send the info along.
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I will be driving to origins also, so bringing struggle is not a problem.
If Eric is planning on playing we officially could have 3 more players.
So here it is ;D - we need up to 3 players at Origins to play Struggle for Europe and Asia, we are planning a start time of 9am Thursday.
See y'all there
Ken
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Okay, you bring the game. ;D
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i have thursday off ------ so its a go ;D
need 3 players for thursday at origins
kenb
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Right now it looks like just us three.
Maybe we can pick up someone to get us to four. I don't think that six players will be realistic.
Maybe if we were playing on Saturday that would work, but since we are going with Thursday, we will just have to live with what we got.
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Hopefully, after we have it all set up, we can intice some players
ken
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On a new Convention topic -- A-Kon -Dallas 2011 -- I will be running Struggle (41 start) on Saturday June 11, from 9am till midnight.
ken
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Ken, Eric, and I played a '41 game with Eric's set up.
Eric was all the Axis. I was USSR and China. Ken was UK and US.
I was on the run the whole game on the Eastern Front. Ken was chasing about the Atlantic in the vain hope of quelling the sub menace and that allowed the Italians a lot of leeway in pushing on Cairo.Â
The Japanese were constantly pestered by my pesky Chinese, but the IJN pushed the US Pacific Fleet back to West Coast and trapped them there.
By late '42, the Axis had their magical 42 VPs and we called it a game. Painful to get run over like that.Â
Might need to tweak a few things there, especially on the Eastern Front. Hell, when even I can run around on Dan on the Eastern Front (our last '41 game), then maybe it needs a little work. Ken bought up the fact that we weren't factoring in the 10 infantry conscripts from the optional Soviet entry card. That might help. Â
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The subs can quickly get things out of control if they are not addressed early...
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any intrest in playing at origins again this year?
kenb
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Due to the costs of pending home repairs (I need to replace my furnace, which is kinda important here in Alaska), and traveling due to family health issues, I ain't gonna make it to any lower 48 cons this year. Someday, but not this year.
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Possibly - what are the dates? - I need to see when Mark will return for his summer break
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A crapload of politics and intrigue have surrounded Origins over the last decade, but in the latest batch is the move of the convention date to an earlier timeframe.
Origins Game Fair
May 30-June 3, 2012
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yes
i have the new origins dates >:( >:( >:(
ken
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Not sure if I will make it to Origins or not - but should know by the end of February. It is the Con I would love to go to this Summer if I make it to any this year.
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yes
i have the new origins dates >:( >:( >:(
ken
No offense Ken, but I was directing my comments towards John and Mark. I was unsure they know about the reasons why the dates had changed.
Or that they had changed at all.
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I did not know about the date change. Can you share why?
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I did not know about the date change. Can you share why?
I think that the main issue was that they could get a cheaper deal for the earlier date.
But it has been pointed out that many people won't be able to come on the earlier date, especially those with children, because most schools will still be in session. And another certain percentage of attendees are teachers, so that works against this date too.
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Got it - July 4th was a tough weekend for me though...
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Got it - July 4th was a tough weekend for me though...
I understand.
I think that they should try for either the third or fourth weekend of June. You would avoid the school issue and you are still approximately six weeks before Gen Con Indy.
But what do I know. ???
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We are trying to work things out 8)
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Historicon 2013 VA 7/18-7/20
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How did the Historicon experience go?
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Went north of the border this last weekend to the Field Marshall Gaming Convention put on by my buddy Jeremy of Field Marshall Games and his friends at I Will Never Grow Up .com.
Passed out a bunch of the old postcards that I still had for Struggle so we may end up with some new converts to one or both of the versions. Fingers crossed. ;D
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Cool! Thanks Yoper!!
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Looks like I'm staying in Alaska after all, but I'm thinking about bringing Struggle to Tennessee Games Day on 14-16MAR2014. Anyone in that area?
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Running 1941 Scenario of Struggle for Europe at ConQuest Avalon, in Sacramento. Nov 1-3 2013
Have a time slot for all day Saturday, November 2nd.
Don't know if anyone has signed up yet or not.
I will take a lot of pictures, and let you know how it went.
Wolf
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1941 is the way to go for a con - you can get everyone into the action- remember to use the players guide 1 page summary in the rule book to help teach the game