Starvation (out of supply)

[Darkman]

Heya all,

how about a chance of some kind of starvation rule(or surrender) if large divisions are out of supply over several turns ?

Any idea? Thoughts?

[qxxx]

here is my 2 cents

how about a -1 every full turn the territory is out of supply

[Mark]

WE have talked about this a bunch.  One thing though - is I think one always had to attack to wipe out pockets of unsupplied units or islands - I mean there were no occassions of armies just starving out without being attacked were there?  At least I can't think of any. 

I mean Japanese islands that were isolated still put up a fight when attacked.  Surrounded German or Russian pockets had to be reduced and could not just be ignored.  This does require some discussion though - as one thing I don't like is big isolated pockets attacking in a direction that does not get them back in supply.

Maybe something like - on the check supply phase, unsupplied units that are already out of supply can no longer attack or something. . . not sure. .  .

[Darkman]

True Mark , but i think beeing surrounded on a pacific island is a whole different story than russian winter when it comes to food supply

A -1 every full round looks quite good.  Maybe with a minimum of defense + a untouched defense for mountains , islands & woods

[Doc Barber]

Maybe stick with -1, but you lose a unit every turn you're out of supply after that?

[Godleader]

Darkman, your idea is good but i have in idea, every turn a unit surrender after the number of turn in the territory= the little food the troop find in plunder in that territory. For the ammunition the normal -1. Exemple in a territory with a one ipc value, units in this territory begin surrender 2 turn after the encirclement, one turn for the encirclement phase, and the other for the number on the territory. For a territory with no icp value, unit begin surrender on the first turn after the encirclement.
One unit every turn, the players chosen which unit i surrender.