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WWII: Struggle for Europe____WWII: Struggle for Asia => First Edition Game => Rules questions from first edition => Topic started by: sleipner on April 17, 2007, 12:08:17 PM
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Hi, are the fighters for minor countriese supposed to be bi-planes/early war fighters`? Or is it just the Polish one?
Daniel
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Poland and all minor neutrals have bi-planes/early war fighters. Plus Italy and Russia start with and can only build bi-planes/early war fighters until the designated dates in which they can build regular fighters. England can only have bi-planes/early war fighters for carrier planes until noted on the build chart. Hope that helps.
John
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But where is it in the rules? Just got the game so I maybe have missed it? Is the minor countries = pre42 others as named on the air chart?
Another thing regarding fighters is that on the chart it talks about French pre42 fighters and 42+fighters. But is this really the same unit? (since France hasnīt got an early war biplane)
And the russian could begin building normal fighters earlier than pre1942 if it was attacked. Is the air chart assuming that it doesnīt get attacked and therfore isnīt able to build it until this date approx because of neutral build limits?
I guess I have an idea about the intentions regarding the russian fighter value, it just seems unclear since the chart mentions a date and the prerequisite to build normal fighters is not a date.
I hope you understand my swenglish :)
Daniel
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Hi sleipner,
The national fighter values are not listed in the rulebook - only on the air-to-air battleboard (and on the national reference charts for the major powers). "Others" on the air-to-air battleboard refers to all non-listed nationalities - including 'minor' powers that have air units (so the Polish, Spanish, Turkish and (yes, unfortunately) even the Swedish air units are considered "early war" 2 or less air-to-air combat value.
It is the same unit for the French. If they are still in the game in 1942 - the French air units automatically upgrade (of course, as pointed out by others, if the French are still in the game in 1942, the game is probably over ;D)
The date for the Soviet air units on the air battleboard is misleading (thought it usually works out around 1942). The Soviets can start building mid-war air units (and can no longer build early war air units) after they have built two additional early war fighters per their production chart regardless of whether they are at war or not.
Sorry for the confusion hope that helps.
Mark
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Thanks, I think I understand. Well, if Germany goes after Russia from getgo and screen the western allies maybe France 42 could be achieved? Think I read that someone had tried that strategy in World in Flames. Sounds insane to me.
Yeah, Swedish fighter as a biplane, awful >:( :D. After 130 years of peace "we" tried to have the best defense after the war instead before, hihi. A common saying in Swedish politics I am starting to get tired upon is "We are following the development" . I think it would be better to be leading it but thatīs just me. ;)
Daniel
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Well, one more question. I noticed after our new gameīs first session that Japan isnīt mentioned on the air-combat chart to have an air-to-air value of 3 from the beginning. Is this really correct? I have always thought that the Japanese fighters were better than the allied ones until late in the war.
Daniel
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They are a "3" for air to air. - This is on the Country chart.
John
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oh, thanx